{"id":7,"date":"2009-02-14T11:31:52","date_gmt":"2009-02-14T17:31:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bibledunamai.net\/blog\/?p=7"},"modified":"2009-03-26T09:49:29","modified_gmt":"2009-03-26T15:49:29","slug":"how-can-their-be-light-without-the-sun-in-genesis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bibledunamai.net\/blog\/2009\/02\/14\/how-can-their-be-light-without-the-sun-in-genesis\/","title":{"rendered":"Light without the sun in Genesis?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!-- Easy AdSense V2.80 -->\n<!-- Post[count: 1] -->\n<div class=\"ezAdsense adsense adsense-leadin\" style=\"float:right;margin:12px; \"><script type=\"text\/javascript\"><!--\r\ngoogle_ad_client = \"pub-9726323159676378\";\r\n\/* 250x250, created 10\/4\/09 *\/\r\ngoogle_ad_slot = \"0910926813\";\r\ngoogle_ad_width = 250;\r\ngoogle_ad_height = 250;\r\n\/\/-->\r\n<\/script>\r\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\"\r\nsrc=\"http:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/show_ads.js\">\r\n<\/script><\/div><p>Here in Genesis 1:3 we have light, but the sun and moon were created in Gen 1:16<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.<\/p>\n<p>Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness.<\/p>\n<p>Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I believe the reason for this is because light and darkness had different meanings during ancient times. Later these words transformed into the definitions we came to know.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The first thing we need to notice is the words used for light in Genesis 1:3 and Genesis 1:16.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.<\/p>\n<p>Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In 1:3 the Hebrew word for light is H216 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blueletterbible.org\/lang\/lexicon\/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H216&amp;t=KJV\"><\/a> <span class=\"lexTitleHb\">\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8<\/span> <em>&#8216;owr.<\/em><br \/>\nIn 1:16 the Hebrew word for light is H3974 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blueletterbible.org\/lang\/lexicon\/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H3974&amp;t=KJV\"><\/a> <span class=\"lexTitleHb\">\u05de\u05d0\u05d5\u05e8<\/span> <em>ma&#8217;owr. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Here we have two different Hebrew words being used for light. Therefore, it is logical to assume they have two different meanings.<\/p>\n<p>The root for darkness is obscuration, things are not discernible.<br \/>\nDarkness obscures our ability to discern objects so later it became to mean darkness.<\/p>\n<p>Light is the ability to start to discern, start to relieve obscurity.<br \/>\nSo as you start to relieve obscurity, you begin to get order. Darkness is disorder, light is order.<\/p>\n<p>Notice how during the 6 days creation &#8220;evening and the morning&#8221; were each day. (This is why the Jewish day starts at night and why the Sabbath is on Saturday.) Evening starts at ~7pm and morning starts ~7am. This is only ~12 hours. I don&#8217;t think when it is said that the evening and morning were day X it is referring to light, but that each day it moved from disorder (evening) to order (morning.)<\/p>\n<p>And the evening and the morning were the first day.<\/p>\n<p>And the evening and the morning were the second day.<\/p>\n<!-- Easy AdSense V2.80 -->\n<!-- Post[count: 2] -->\n<div class=\"ezAdsense adsense adsense-midtext\" style=\"float:left;margin:12px; \"><script type=\"text\/javascript\"><!--\r\ngoogle_ad_client = \"pub-9726323159676378\";\r\n\/* 250x250, created 10\/4\/09 *\/\r\ngoogle_ad_slot = \"0910926813\";\r\ngoogle_ad_width = 250;\r\ngoogle_ad_height = 250;\r\n\/\/-->\r\n<\/script>\r\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\"\r\nsrc=\"http:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/show_ads.js\">\r\n<\/script><\/div><p>And the evening and the morning were the third day.<\/p>\n<p>And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.<\/p>\n<p>And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.<\/p>\n<p>And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.<\/p>\n<p>And on the seventh day God ended his work.<\/p>\n<p>Notice how there was no evening and morning on the 7th day. This does not mean there was no daylight. I think it means that from day 1 until day 6 we slowly moved from disorder to order. On the 7th day order has been obtained, so there was no disorder.<\/p>\n<p>The other idea is that Genesis 1:3 is referring to light as we know it &#8212; photons propagating through space as electromagnetic waves reflecting off objects. If so, then where is the light coming from?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here it says that the sun and moon aren&#8217;t requirements for light because Jesus is the light.<\/p>\n<p>If 1:3 refers to literal light and God is the light, then why did he &#8220;let there be light&#8221; if it already existed within himself? The answer is in verse 1:2.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The word darkness is H2882  <span class=\"lexTitleHb\">\u05d7\u05e9\u05da<\/span> <em>choshek<\/em> which is an un-natural darkness. It is the same word used in Exodus 10.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Exd 10:21  \tAnd the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness [which] may be felt.<\/p>\n<p>Exd 10:22  \tAnd Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In Exodus 10 this was a darkness you could feel. If it is indeed the same darkness as in Genesis 1:2 then in Genesis 1:3 when God said let there be light he probably removed the <em>choshek<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Much of what I learned about this is from Chuck Missler of khouse.org. I highly recommend you download his Genesis talk, it&#8217;s very good.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here in Genesis 1:3 we have light, but the sun and moon were created in Gen 1:16 Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 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